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Post by guest on Sept 1, 2012 3:31:47 GMT 2
Shai and I picked ska to captain in 2006 because he was young and impressionable and certainly neither of us wanted to do it. We tried to do the traditional captain gives orders thing but ska doesn't usually give orders for whatever reason so we eventually compensated by being basically the mini co-captain people. From 06-2010 shai overall consistently did most of the work on the strats though he rarely ever did them alone unless it was vs some who gives a *cruiser* team. I think I came up with a bunch of strats, as did ska as did gkg in 09. Adren came up with 1 strat in TWS which worked wonderfully versus wwo, congratulations Adren.
That being said contrary to whatever someone said earlier there were very few people on the team who gave meaningful input, there's a reason why the majority of the team had to be gathered like children before a match and hand guided through what the strats were, which of course they still fucked up.
2009-2010 featured hilarious forum fights between gkg and shai over strats, one party took it really personally.
2011-2012 no idea what was going on, it was horrible to watch and hear about though.
There isn't a set special way to do anything, and the fucked up hybird captain thing with ska worked fine. He was also really good at re-distributing units!
Also there are way more than 2-3 ways to play a map/gametype, no idea how you managed to come up with that conclusion.
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Post by giantkillergeneral on Sept 1, 2012 4:40:58 GMT 2
i don't take anything personally on this game. if i took something personally there would be some sign that i did so such as resorting to personal attacks or something, but i have never done that with anyone. instead i keep my commentary/shittalk/insults about the game specifically. just because i called shai out on his shitty strats and then finally showed how shitty they were doesn't mean i took anything personally. i think shai is a swell guy and great player. just not good with making strats. i would say the same thing about tirri, ska, ducky, and a lot of other players that I might call out for shitty capping and/or strategic ability.
here is another little tidbit about me: I mostly talk shit because I can. in my competitive world that is the right that you earn from winning. if someone put me in my place i would kindly shut the *cruiser* up and gracefully acknowledge them the victor and move on. that is the law that governs my competitive world and I think that if everyone followed that law the world would be a better place. Some sensitive nancies on here take my shit-talk waaay too seriously instead of what it really is: a competitive mindset that treats them as the enemy for competition, and trying to get into their head.
there just hasn't been anyone who could put me in my place since 2008 or so.
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Post by rambone on Sept 1, 2012 5:30:01 GMT 2
Not to invoke the wrath of GKG but ...
1st sentance.
i don't take anything personally on this game.
Last sentance.
there just hasn't been anyone who could put me in my place since 2008 or so.
Is it just me or do both of those seem to contadict one another?
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Post by guest on Sept 1, 2012 5:31:55 GMT 2
There are different levels on how you react to shit coming from other people. Just because you did not resort to personal attacks towards someone that pissed you off doesn't mean you didn't take whatever they did personally.
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Post by giantkillergeneral on Sept 1, 2012 5:32:23 GMT 2
they can contradict in your mind if you want, sure. i was just stating the fact that i haven't lost a 1v1/team tournament since 2008. or are you getting sensitive too?
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Post by giantkillergeneral on Sept 1, 2012 5:34:54 GMT 2
yea and when i got my ass-chewed as a boot in the Marines I might be a little upset too, but still doesn't mean I took anything personally. to take something personally I would have to hold a grudge against someone, which I don't. this is proven many times by the multiple instances of me teaming on myth with people who were formerly arch-rivals of mine such as Kirk, Paris, and EW.
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Post by guest on Sept 1, 2012 5:40:50 GMT 2
Heh, getting a little upset is taking it personally, regardless of what your actions were after the fact. If you didn't take it personally it would've had zero effect on you, you wouldn't have reacted to it at all, emotionally or otherwise.
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Post by rambone on Sept 1, 2012 5:42:53 GMT 2
What came first? The chicken or the egg?
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Post by giantkillergeneral on Sept 1, 2012 6:04:19 GMT 2
uhmmm, ill just say that i have a very different definition of what it means to take something personally. i think there is a difference between being offended by something and being personally offended by something. if someone is chewing my ass I can have an emotional response because I am human and still not take it personally because I know that person is just doing their job in chewing my ass. I think most people understand it in this way as well.
if every emotional response to anything is taking something personally then i don't know how to not take something personally by that definition. you would have to be either an emotional midget/serial killer or a robot. the key part of this is learning how to let shit go, and my previously aforementioned shittalk has nothing to do with grudges and everything to do with what i truly think of how a player plays this game.
this just seems like a really silly argument now
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Post by guest on Sept 1, 2012 6:33:02 GMT 2
You can take trivial things personally because it is a basic human emotional response, it doesn't mean you're plotting to stab someone in the neck because they wanted to split trow on clash fr and you did not, though obviously people with psychological issues may very well do that. You may however wish to get back at that asshole because *cruiser* him and all his disagreements with my strats, he doesn't comprehend my mything genius or he does and he's just jealous. I'm so going to totally show him what is up next year and then write a book on how he was wrong, yolo. That's a grudge for a year, for the record.
People take competition in a pointless game seriously because they attach self worth to it and how they compare to others.
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Post by eastwind on Sept 1, 2012 6:34:29 GMT 2
GKG def. has thick skin, me/par/krok have collectively said a lot of shit to GKG, but everything is golden now. But back to capping – GKG's strength is aggressiveness and unit redistribution – as for his strats – "very meat and potatoes", nothing overly complex but they'll get the damn job done.
Ska's strength was very quick redistribution. Shai def. made the most NC strats.
Rab's strength was seeing moves ahead of time on a consistent basis.
Btt/Hit were great caps as well. I'd put arz up there too for pretty creative shit and good awareness as well.
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Post by guest on Sept 1, 2012 6:38:25 GMT 2
He most definitely does not have thick skin, not from my experiences with him, sorry no way. He may or may not eventually let things go but that is irrelevant.
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Post by waywardone on Sept 1, 2012 6:39:49 GMT 2
EW is smart.
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trololo
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Post by trololo on Sept 1, 2012 8:40:49 GMT 2
i don't take anything personally on this game. You take everything personally in this game, dickface. |
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Post by ratking on Sept 1, 2012 10:58:03 GMT 2
I find it quite funny that asmo was upset I was put on the list. For the record, the match where both teams were actually accounted for we won. If you watch the films you would know I made a few good calls that helped changed the outcome. Oh yeah, on that first match we won.. pretty much the entire TS roster was there. I think there was 6 of us. The tcox match wasn't the greatest example bc they were undermanned. nc wasn't a great example either but I did go 1-1 there. Oh that's right, we also beat the team you lost to last week. My point is, when the team was there we could challenge and best some of the better teams.
However, what was TS's best win of mwc? Against us down 2 players? Did I mention the game we won was when we had even numbers? (father xmas and ram played)
Honestly I really hate it when ppl have to bitch about something and I feel the need to respond. I'd like to just get along w ppl. If you wanna stack up against me look at the whole picture, and so will I. But if you wanna talk about empty victories unprovoked, well.. don't blame me when it blows up in your face.
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