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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 18, 2012 15:43:57 GMT 2
The Obama regime and the propaganda machine of the Democrat Socialist party of America (ABC, NBC, CBS, ect) is telling the lie that the Middle East is burning because of the trailer for a movie. It is an absolutely absurd lie. The State Department was warned that an attack was highly possible, yet the ignored it. Obama only attends about half of his Security meetings. Anyway we are being lied to there is a lot more to the story. This has nothing to do with a movie trailer. This is the start of an orchestrated take over of the Middle East by Muslim Radicals (about 99% of all Muslims are radicals. Only a Radical Muslim is a true Muslim) The Obama Regime has been helping Al-Qaeda. The "Arab Spring" is nothing more than a take over of the Middle East by Radical Muslims. Obama and his Regime has been helping them every step of the way. Here is a link to the some videos you should watch, then watch more videos at the site. You will learn the TRUTH about what is going on in America and the rest of the World. www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=24851689&topic_id=24584158www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=24739335&topic_id=24584158www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=24739243&topic_id=24584158 |
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Post by eastwind on Sept 18, 2012 16:14:58 GMT 2
jesus christ
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 18, 2012 16:25:04 GMT 2
Yes indeed. It is terrible that these are the kind of people (Obama Regime) in control of America. Unbelievable what they have been getting away with, and their hatred for America. |
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Post by milkman on Sept 18, 2012 16:53:04 GMT 2
There really should be a dedicated right wing nutbag forum on this site.
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Post by amino1 on Sept 18, 2012 16:59:54 GMT 2
(about 99% of all Muslims are radicals. Only a Radical Muslim is a true Muslim) I don't really care if you believe everything else that you wrote, but where is your evidence for this statement? From what I understand, a true Muslim believes one must "surrender" one's will to Allah's. How is your portrait of them any different from your own position (a true "patriot" or a true "Christian" must take radical action to curb this threat)? How is any of this not merely wishful thinking? Not to mention that this parenthetical is misleading. Saying 99% of Muslims are radical is not the same as defining a Muslim as radical. If that were the case then 100% of Muslims, in your view, would be radical. All the people we know in that case that self-identify as Muslim are either faking it--or secretly plotting our imminent demise, which in Psychology is pathologized, I believe, as paranoia. Jus' sayin'. |
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Post by adrenaline on Sept 18, 2012 17:48:39 GMT 2
I sometimes wonder if SamtheButcher has just been trolling us for the last few months... but then I realize that, no, he is actually quite fucked in the head.
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 18, 2012 20:40:07 GMT 2
I'm not trolling. Here is my proof that 99% of Muslims are radical and if you arent radical you arent a true Muslim.
Here is what the koran teaches. Just a few quotes. Basically islam teaches that you must kill ALL non-muslims or non believers. Actually seek them out and murder them and be rewarded by allah.
Here is your proof.
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
I would call that pretty damn radical. Just like I said if you arent radical you arent a true muslim, because you are ignoring the commandments of allah and are therefore an infidel yourself and should be killed by real/true muslims. When the Bible tells you to love your neighbors and pray for your enemies look what the koran teaches. When you have the Middle East swarming with people that deeply believe in the teachings of the koran it is no wonder that the muslims have been at war with and actively seeking out non-muslims to kill since the poison of islam came into this world. It is a "religion" of violence and hatred plain and simple. A muslim that said allah didnt want them to kill Christians would be like a Christian saying God didnt really mean "Thou shalt not kill."
Does anybody actually research things on their own or do you just believe what ever propaganda the Leftist/Socialist spew.
Anyone that denies that islam/muslims are not radical and dangerous to the entire world just do not and will not face reality. To know the teachings of islam and and not recognize the threat or go so far as to deny there is a threat. Is equivalent to having a legally insane person holding a gun to your head saying they are going to kill you and, you say "Oh no they dont mean it. They're just saying those things. They wont really kill me."
Let me see what sort of attempt people will come up with to try to deny the dangers of islam. Remember if a person doesnt believe in the teachings of allah and believe that they should do as allah commanded them then they arent a true muslim. Only a muslim that believes and follows the teachings of allah are true muslims.
I know "They dont really believe that." Right?
Well
Who are you to say that their god allah didnt mean what he said and that muslims dont really believe allah either? You have no right to tell anyone what they believe or that their god lies. These are the teachings of their god. This is what muslims believe. Who do you think you are to impose your feelings and beliefs on someone else and to deny them of their own beliefs? You have NO right to do that.
Is it any wonder that the Middle East has been in violence and chaos since the founding of islam? When these people believe they have been commanded by god to kill anyone that does not follow the teachings of islam.
So I am not Trolling. I am exposing the truth. The smart thing to do would be to accept the truth, but you can always stick your head back in the sand and live in the imaginary world inside your head. Where muslims are peace loving people that if America would only apologize a little more give a little bit more money and admit everything that is wrong with the world is Americas fault. The muslims would stop killing and terrorizing the world then
we could buy the world a coke and everything could be just like the liberals believe it could be.
Unfortunately the real world is much different. This is what islam really is.
WARNING SOME GRAPHIC CONTENT!!!
But it is something everyone should see.
Dont even comment if you wont watch this video. It is only a small snap shot of the violence being committed in the name of islam. Just close your eyes and go back to sleep.
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Post by adrenaline on Sept 18, 2012 20:50:10 GMT 2
holy shit man. just please, shut the *cruiser* up.
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Post by eastwind on Sept 18, 2012 20:56:57 GMT 2
matt romney?
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 18, 2012 21:08:02 GMT 2
holy shit man. just please, shut the *cruiser* up. Yep you dont like the truth so you try to suppress it. I guess you would rather not know the truth so you dont have to face it. Typical state of purposeful self sustained ignorance. That is what is wrong with the world today and why islam has gotten so powerful. People just like you. |
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Post by amino1 on Sept 18, 2012 21:46:49 GMT 2
Selectively pasting isolated quotes out of context means very little. For what it's worth people have been doing that for centuries with the Bible to support all sorts of causes. There are plenty of passages in the Bible that, if quoted, would cause someone unfamiliar with it to question the message of peace and love that you present here as a counterpoint to Islam. Need an example? Exhortation to carry out unbridled genocide in Deuteronomy.
I'm sorry but the "evidence" you provide doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I would need a well-reasoned argument to consider watching any of the videos you link, as, for all I know, they are merely snuff videos intended to arouse ire, which I can find on my own time were I so inclined.
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Post by honkey on Sept 18, 2012 22:09:34 GMT 2
Americans hav massacred more muslims than vice versa and we have bankrupted our country bombing mud huts across the globe. This is like a bully claiming they are a victim after a nerd punches them back after years of abuse. Sam you are just as idiotic as the liberals you despise
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 18, 2012 22:21:32 GMT 2
Selectively pasting isolated quotes out of context means very little. For what it's worth people have been doing that for centuries with the Bible to support all sorts of causes. There are plenty of passages in the Bible that, if quoted, would cause someone unfamiliar with it to question the message of peace and love that you present here as a counterpoint to Islam. Need an example? Exhortation to carry out unbridled genocide in Deuteronomy. I'm sorry but the "evidence" you provide doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I would need a well-reasoned argument to consider watching any of the videos you link, as, for all I know, they are merely snuff videos intended to arouse ire, which I can find on my own time were I so inclined. Actually you are wrong. These are not cherry picked quotes. This IS the teachings of the koran. If you knew more about the Bible and the koran you would understand how you are wrong. I understand people try to say the Bible says "Eye for and Eye" and things like that, but if you had read it yourself. You would know that in the New Testament Jesus enlightened people and corrected them on things like that. Jesus said To disprove things like you mentioned that were taught in Deuteronomy. "38You have heard that it has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39But I say unto you, That you resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40And if any man will sue you at the law, and take away your coat, let him have your cloak also.
41And whosoever shall compel you to go a mile, go with him two.
42Give to him that asks you, and from him that would borrow of you turn not away."
Jesus and Christianity teaches not kill you enemy. The koran teaches if anyone does not believe in allah they ARE your ENEMY and infidels and it is your DUTY to KILL them or you yourself are an infidel.
About Loving your Enemies
"43You have heard that it has been said, You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46For if you love them who love you, what reward have you? do not even the tax collectors the same?
47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you more than others? do not even the tax collectors so?
48Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect."
The koran is not like that at all. The quotes I gave ARE the teachings of islam they ARE EXACTLY what a real muslim must adhere to or risk death himself from true believers. Compare that to the Bible. You are doing exactly like so many people do and try to claim that muslims dont really believe the teaching of allah or that allah didnt really mean what he tought. The video is not a snuff film. One thing it does show though are the muslim religious leaders teaching exactly what is quoted in the koran. The video shows muslims with African Slaves, yes Africans are still being enslaved in the 21st century but the "religion of peace" It show muslim children on a kids show say that "They must kill Jews and infidels" But go ahead if you want and make up excuses to not watch this video or any others or to not learn what islam truly is. I know it is hard for many people especially the "enlightened and intellectuals" to accept the fact that islam is nothing but a religion of hate and violence followed by an evil group of people called muslims. People like you think everyone thinks like you do and are generally good people that respects everyone else, but that just isnt the case. This is a perfect parable for people that think like you about muslims. It couldnt be any closer to the truth. |
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Post by adrenaline on Sept 18, 2012 22:39:05 GMT 2
That is what is wrong with the world today and why islam has gotten so powerful. People just like you. Yes, blame Canada. |
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Post by cremisi on Sept 18, 2012 22:42:37 GMT 2
I'm not trolling. Here is my proof that 99% of Muslims are radical and if you arent radical you arent a true Muslim. Here is what the koran teaches. Just a few quotes. Basically islam teaches that you must kill ALL non-muslims or non believers. Actually seek them out and murder them and be rewarded by allah. Here is your proof. commands to kill infidels
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191 KORAN commands to kill infidels: Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98 (yes God if you do not believe in God he dose not like you ) Shocking .. On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161 same as aboveSlay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191 Out of context learn how to read , really ... this Soura is describing a battle that took place centuries ago so unless you are
living somewhat in the 7th century (which i am sure you are not ) and belong to the Qurish tribe (which you are not ) and on a battle field ready to kill who believes in God (which you are not ) trust me you have nothing to worry about , unless you are ignorant and you want to believe that that you are all of the above then that is your business [/quote] i can go on and on but i do not have time to teach people how to read stuff so basically learn Arabic and read it for your self , then LYAO at what you typed above . |
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