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Post by honkey on Sept 19, 2012 0:16:53 GMT 2
The war on drugs proves it all. Bailouts of Goldman Sachs etc... Reality is you should go enlist and shut up already you retard. I get my information from people far smarter than Alex jones. And btw don't discredit Alex jones by citing Glenn beck now that is a joke. Chris Matthews and Glenn beck should fight to the death and then we should kill the winner. Read about the corporate tree something they teach in BUSINESS school and look
At media distribution. It is quite easy to send a centralized message. For instance if the news started reporting that you were a child molester the world would hate you you would receive death threats an your family would be in danger because 6 groups decided to report it.
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Post by cremisi on Sept 19, 2012 0:27:45 GMT 2
KORAN commands to kill infidels: Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98 (yes God if you do not believe in God he dose not like you ) Shocking .. On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161 same as aboveSlay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191 Out of context learn how to read , really ... this Soura is describing a battle that took place centuries ago so unless you are
living somewhat in the 7th century (which i am sure you are not ) and belong to the Qurish tribe (which you are not ) and on a battle field ready to kill who believes in God (which you are not ) trust me you have nothing to worry about , unless you are ignorant and you want to believe that that you are all of the above then that is your business i can go on and on but i do not have time to teach people how to read stuff so basically learn Arabic and read it for your self , then LYAO at what you typed above . Cremisi you try to deny some of the teachings of the koran. Like this. It doesnt matter if another person believes in God or not. IT IS what the muslims believe that matters. Watch the video it has multiple religious leader telling masses of muslim that "They must kill infidels, Jew ect" Or what about the children on a kids show telling kids to kill Jews. These beliefs in what I quoted from the koran are pervasive through out the muslim world. Watch the video if you dont believe me. I cant sit here and type out everything that is said or shown in that video. It is all from the mouths of muslims. I have been learning about the threat of islam for a couple years now and have done a lot of research looking at things from both sides. Believe me what I quoted from the koran IS what the majority of muslims believe and if someone claims to be a muslim and doesnt adhere to those teaches they themselves are considered infidels. I am not going to write a book here with all the evidence to support what I am telling you. If you cant watch the video and then tell me the video isnt true and the stuff the muslims say and do is some how not true. Then there really is no point for me to explain more. Stick you head back in thye sand close your eyes and maybe it will all go away. Or Do some research on what muslims really believe. From their own mouths, teachings and actions like I have. There is unbelievable amounts of evidence to support everything I have said. Just start with the video and try to explain how that video means nothing and there is no threat. Please I want to see how you attempt to do that. Well Sam I am a Muslim and everything you are typing is wrong , and i do not believe in , and its out of context from the Koran , there is a simple explanation for this , and its (that its coming from you) , you just flowing without checking how hard is it to read a book ? , also keep in mind that there are a lot of crazy people out there and the easiest way to network for cash or an objective is to use some kind of a religion crap. |
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Post by homer on Sept 19, 2012 0:41:22 GMT 2
CREMISI IS IN THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD -
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 19, 2012 0:55:37 GMT 2
From what I have seen from very prominent muslim leaders and much of the muslim world. You are the one taking the koran out of context. Do you believe women should drive, vote, need to be covered at all times? Do you believe during the end times the trees will call out and tell when a infidel (non-muslim) is hiding behind it. So that the muslim can kill him? Do you believe you should never be friends with Christians or Jews? Because if you dont then allah considers you just as bad as them.
What about this:
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
So are you unequal because you dont fight and kill non-muslims?
Do you believe in honor killing?
Or this?
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. As you were saying it being out of context. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…
There are tons of stuff like this all about killing non-muslims. Yea the koran teaches love but only to other muslims. The koran teaches that for muslims they must convert or kill until the whole World follows islam. That is one of the underlying messages of the koran. How can you try to say that islam isnt a religion of violence. Either you agree with these teachings or you dont believe what the koran teaches. If you dont believe and follow the teaches of the koran and allah you should consider that maybe you arent a true muslim. That you have a different belief system that is loosely based on the non-violent teaching of the koran, but your not really a muslim. If you went to Libya today and told the muslims on the street that you dont believe you should kill Christians or Jews. That you have befriended them. They would kill you as an infidel. It is what the koran teaches.
Sorry, you might be a good guy but you are supporting a religion of hate and violence, because you think you are part of it. Except you just want to follow the nice parts. Which with islam it is all or nothing. Since it obviously isnt all in your case since you reject violence against people just for not being muslim (?) Then it is nothing.
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Post by cremisi on Sept 19, 2012 1:35:28 GMT 2
From what I have seen from very prominent muslim leaders and much of the muslim world. You are the one taking the koran out of context. Do you believe women should drive, vote, need to be covered at all times? Do you believe during the end times the trees will call out and tell when a infidel (non-muslim) is hiding behind it. So that the muslim can kill him? Do you believe you should never be friends with Christians or Jews? Because if you dont then allah considers you just as bad as them. What about this: Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).So are you unequal because you dont fight and kill non-muslims? Do you believe in honor killing? Or this? Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. As you were saying it being out of context. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…There are tons of stuff like this all about killing non-muslims. Yea the koran teaches love but only to other muslims. The koran teaches that for muslims they must convert or kill until the whole World follows islam. That is one of the underlying messages of the koran. How can you try to say that islam isnt a religion of violence. Either you agree with these teachings or you dont believe what the koran teaches. If you dont believe and follow the teaches of the koran and allah you should consider that maybe you arent a true muslim. That you have a different belief system that is loosely based on the non-violent teaching of the koran, but your not really a muslim. If you went to Libya today and told the muslims on the street that you dont believe you should kill Christians or Jews. That you have befriended them. They would kill you as an infidel. It is what the koran teaches. Sorry, you might be a good guy but you are supporting a religion of hate and violence, because you think you are part of it. Except you just want to follow the nice parts. Which with islam it is all or nothing. Since it obviously isnt all in your case since you reject violence against people just for not being muslim (?) Then it is nothing. Ok sam , its against my religion to deny prophets or any other religion God has sent down , the word infidel in Koran refers to people who do not believe in God and trying to kill the believers its really not hard to understand but let me try to put it in simple terms . If you come to my house to kill me because i believe in God , I will put a Shotgun in your face and blow your brains out and after that ill burn your corps on my front lawn tree  . |
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Post by samthebutcher on Sept 19, 2012 2:03:58 GMT 2
Ok so you admit that you believe what the koran says. All those quotes I had. All that about killing non-muslims and fighting until islam is the only religion of the World.
I do give you credit for being honest.
You must then also believe in the destruction Israel. A major part of islam.
So there we go. Here is the only muslim I know of that plays Myth and he believes and supports the teachings of the koran such as I quoted and what is in that video.
Death or enslavement or they must submit and pay "jizya" for all non-muslims. That is the way of allah. This is a foundation stone of islam. It is a religion of hatred, suppression and total intolerance to all non-muslims.
Islam is a threat to the whole World.
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Post by honkey on Sept 19, 2012 2:13:04 GMT 2
Funny how sam ignores: the spanish inquisition, the 30 years war (worst war in world history), THE CRUSADES, and so on and so forth. But sam i have news for you... you have an OPPORTUNITY to STOP THIS WORLD THREAT..... YOU SAM CAN STOP IT.... ENLIST IN THE MILITARY AND YOU CAN BE IN AFGHANISTAN KILLING THOSE GREASY MUSLIMS BY SPRING! THINK ABOUT IT!!!! ALL THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU COULD EVER MASSACRE, ALL THE MOSQUES YOU COULD URINATE IN. Do you need help signing up? Id be glad to help.
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Post by honkey on Sept 19, 2012 2:14:34 GMT 2
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Post by cremisi on Sept 19, 2012 2:25:18 GMT 2
Ok so you admit that you believe what the koran says. All those quotes I had. All that about killing non-muslims and fighting until islam is the only religion of the World. I do give you credit for being honest. You must then also believe in the destruction Israel. A major part of islam. So there we go. Here is the only muslim I know of that plays Myth and he believes and supports the teachings of the koran such as I quoted and what is in that video. Death or enslavement or they must submit and pay "jizya" for all non-muslims. That is the way of allah. This is a foundation stone of islam. It is a religion of hatred, suppression and total intolerance to all non-muslims. Islam is a threat to the whole World. Ok sam apparently you are a Dumb ASS and also apparently you can not read , please take the time to read what you typed above with my quote and think about it you see , i did not say that BUT YOU ARE SAYING I BELIEVE THAT CRAP , you have to read and understand what is written here not what you think you want to understand is written , i am done talking to you since you can not read . |
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Post by guest on Sept 19, 2012 2:42:15 GMT 2
oh holy shit all of you. I wish some muslim extremists would jihad this thread.
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Post by StoneCold on Sept 19, 2012 3:04:54 GMT 2
The world would be a better place without religion. Period.
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Post by guest on Sept 19, 2012 5:02:55 GMT 2
I've enjoyed seeing Sam beat down the haters.
I also enjoyed sasper's posts. Very hilarious.
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Post by myrk on Sept 19, 2012 5:04:41 GMT 2
The one true religion is the Jedi religion, obviously
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Post by homer on Sept 19, 2012 5:19:44 GMT 2
Cremisi how many dictatorships have you had a hand in toppling in the MID-East and what's the Muslim Brotherhood's plan once power is consolidated?
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Post by cremisi on Sept 19, 2012 6:04:55 GMT 2
Cremisi how many dictatorships have you had a hand in toppling in the MID-East and what's the Muslim Brotherhood's plan once power is consolidated? The united states has allied with the Muslim Brotherhood to take control over the middle east with an Islamic flavor its what they call the new middle east , there was no random Arab Spring . |
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