(whether the Earth is billions of years old or 6-10,000 I don't know yet, cause I don't fully understand carbon dating and stuff like it, most people don't understand it they just take that science as truth because it's taught in school
You have taken the opinion of numerous experts throughout your life without fully understanding the science behind their conclusions, why is this any different? Also, there are plenty of opportunities for you, especially out west, to get a first hand look at how the earth is far older than 10,000 years.
I highly doubt you follow the new testament in its entirety, because you'd either be in jail or dead. At the very least your sister would stop speaking to you.
The universe being bleak, cold and empty does make people rise up and live because of the acceptance that their life and existence as a whole is fragile and could end at any moment. You tend to cherish something more if you're sure it's going to be taken away at some point.
You will find varying opinions about the philosophy of existentialism, fatalism, etc amongst the atheists/agnostics that you ask, that is if you manage to talk to them before they off themselves. Nietzsche if I recall correctly despised existentialism and found it rather redundant. I'd be willing to bet you either didn't take philosophy in college, had difficulty grasping it or it really did not interest you, otherwise you wouldn't quote this really terrible and generalist take on the apparent misery that life without zeus is.
"When the Episcopal Church elected a woman as its bishop, Driscoll wrote on his blog, 'If Christian males do not man up soon, the Episcopalians may vote a fluffy baby bunny rabbit as their next bishop to lead God's men.'" Yeah, he's a pretty disgusting human being.
"I highly doubt you follow the new testament in its entirety, because you'd either be in jail or dead. At the very least your sister would stop speaking to you."
First of all, your obviously referring to a specific part of scripture here, but I'm not sure what it is, so why don't you clarify.
"You have taken the opinion of numerous experts throughout your life without fully understanding the science behind their conclusions, why is this any different? Also, there are plenty of opportunities for you, especially out west, to get a first hand look at how the earth is far older than 10,000 years. "
You are right, I, like most people take the opinions of experts all the time when their opinions resonate with what I deem to be true in my heart or brain. It's not any different, but I think people are foolish when they do that, myself included, because in this day and age we are absolutely flooded with information all the time, we cannot possibly research the validity of all of it, but on some points especially those of science and religion that may or may not determine a reason or lack there of behind our very existence we all owe it to ourselves to seek validity and truth. That being said, I'm trying to do that dude, but I work and have some small social life, and it takes time, which there isn't enough of in the day, especially when I generally wasted the first 18 years of my life being apathetic towards anything that didn't involve video games or breasts.
"The universe being bleak, cold and empty does make people rise up and live because of the acceptance that their life and existence as a whole is fragile and could end at any moment. You tend to cherish something more if you're sure it's going to be taken away at some point."
This is true, you do cherish life when you think this is the only one you got or will ever have, but does it not also incline you more to a completely self-absorbed and self serving lifestyle? I mean if this is it, your living life for life-sake, please tell me what you personally think the point of life is? Is it just to enjoy every moment to it's fullest until your inevitable death, perhaps helping those you can along the way which will give you a warm feeling inside and then moving onto the next thing? What's the point? I would also say to this the Christian truly living for Christ and not the self cherishes life the same way, the promise of greater things to come after death does not have to negate the importance, pleasure, beauty and work one has to do in this world.
"You will find varying opinions about the philosophy of existentialism, fatalism, etc amongst the atheists/agnostics that you ask, that is if you manage to talk to them before they off themselves. Nietzsche if I recall correctly despised existentialism and found it rather redundant. I'd be willing to bet you either didn't take philosophy in college, had difficulty grasping it or it really did not interest you, otherwise you wouldn't quote this really terrible and generalist take on the apparent misery that life without zeus is."
I took philosophy, it did interest me some, but I felt it provided me with no real answers, only more questions and circular arguments. But you are right I'm no expert on the great philosophers, recommend some reading please?
""When the Episcopal Church elected a woman as its bishop, Driscoll wrote on his blog, 'If Christian males do not man up soon, the Episcopalians may vote a fluffy baby bunny rabbit as their next bishop to lead God's men.'" Yeah, he's a pretty disgusting human being.""
Well if you think this statement reflects a completely chauvinistic man? Then I'd say you are reading way too much into it. I think Mark Driscoll respects women and I think he loves women, at least that's my opinion of the man after hearing many of his sermons. He says things to goad men into being men and standing up for what they believe to be right, in this case, women not being in leadership positions over men. HOW CAN HE SAY THAT, THIS IS THE 21st CENTURY?
WOMEN ARE NO LONGER 2nd CLASS CITIZENS IN THE U.S., THEY ARE OUR EQUALS!!! He says it because it's biblical, both new and old testament, yes we are to be treated equally, we are to love one another selflessly, but God appointed man to lead man and women in the church body, women are not to be in the leadership roles over men, (of course it's ok for women to lead women, what a terrible a job it would be for men to offer women advice on things like childbirth and their feminine sides, how awful would a man be at understanding the emotional complexities of women) but in the greater setting of the entire church just as the Bible says, Men should be in the leadership roles, not submitting to the leadership of women.
1 Corinthians 11:3 ESV
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God
1 Peter 3:7 ESV
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Ephesians 5:25 ESV / 52 helpful votes
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
Genesis 3:16 ESV / 68 helpful votes
To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”
That's scripture, but what do you care since you don't believe it? Why would I use a text you deem as mostly nonsense to prove my point? Good point Homer, why would you? Because it's all I got right now and I don't feel like typing any further but I promise much more practical and sensible application for every day life as to why the man needs to head the household and the church over the woman.
That being said lets look at one example that may be reflective of how women are not to be in leadership roles over men, bear with me, take the female stand up comedian, and ask yourself what it is about their delivery that just never quite gets you laughing very hard, there is something in our very being as men that grabs everyone's attention when a man speaks with power and authority and confidence or even humor, that's not to say there are not very well spoken women, but just compare the two in your mind honestly and think on it.
Let me also ask a questions as Christian to an atheist who may believe in evolution as the driving force behind existence or at least life on earth, What possible reason or role would humor play in the human mind as a strictly biological emotion to further evolution? Why do we feel humor how does it progress evolution?
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