preset problem

[tirri]

i think i have talked about this before and probably to project magma too but i have forgotten those discussions so ill post again.

since swithing from win98SE/Win ME to xp, presets in myth 2 dont work as well. i have had this problem ever since i abandoned sweet old Win ME and over several different operating systems, different computers/keyboards/mouses the problem still persists.

if you press alt+number and then immediately afterwards click your mouse button, nothing happens. you can easily test this in game. if my memory serves me correctly, this wasnt the case in win ME.

this makes myth half as enjoyable since most of the times i die, its because preset didnt select. you can work around this problem just by using presets and doing everything else a little slower but it's pretty hard to do since everything comes from lightning fast muscle memory.

what usually happens is something like this: your lock is moving towards enemy fireball. you select that lock's preset, move your lock back fast and move on to other things fast. after about 2-3 additional moves you notice that your lock is still walking towards the fireball, GAH the lock wasnt selected. now you must try to do things even faster and try to select the lock again and press back back back and again nothing happens because this time you had to try to do it very fast. and now the game is over

you go to sleep weeping and cursing grim

does anyone have a solution to this big problem?

thanks in advance, your myth friend tirri

[vantobia]

Yes I have noticed this phenom. Now I tend to just click on these individual units in these situations. You do lose a bit of reaction time to the command but at least your unit eventually does what you want.

[cremisi]

i do not believe this problem is a pre set problem , make sure you are using open GL for your graphics in preference and also explore windows mode vs full screen mode especially if you have multiple windows open in windows mode , also make sure you are using a standard mouse point and not some weird fancy mouse pointers and check your mouse properties from the control panel , if all fails you can run myth on different windows by right clicking on it and you can set it to run under win 98 .

[tirri]

Jun 20, 2012 8:56:35 GMT 2 cremisi said:

i do not believe this problem is a pre set problem , make sure you are using open GL for your graphics in preference and also explore windows mode vs full screen mode especially if you have multiple windows open in windows mode , also make sure you are using a standard mouse point and not some weird fancy mouse pointers and check your mouse properties from the control panel , if all fails you can run myth on different windows by right clicking on it and you can set it to run under win 98 .

i have tried all this. changing combatibility mode does nothing. neither does graphics settings. i think i have tried mouse settings too but i might as well give it another shot.

and like i said, i have had this problem for years, with several OS, computers, settings and myth patches.

do your presets work perfectly if you do what i said? press alt+number and then immediately afterwards click your mouse button, as fast as possible. does your preset select and then the selected unit moves where you clicked?

[pogue]

Jun 20, 2012 7:26:55 GMT 2 tirri said:

i think i have talked about this before and probably to project magma too but i have forgotten those discussions so ill post again.

since swithing from win98SE/Win ME to xp, presets in myth 2 dont work as well. i have had this problem ever since i abandoned sweet old Win ME and over several different operating systems, different computers/keyboards/mouses the problem still persists.

if you press alt+number and then immediately afterwards click your mouse button, nothing happens. you can easily test this in game. if my memory serves me correctly, this wasnt the case in win ME.

this makes myth half as enjoyable since most of the times i die, its because preset didnt select. you can work around this problem just by using presets and doing everything else a little slower but it's pretty hard to do since everything comes from lightning fast muscle memory.

what usually happens is something like this: your lock is moving towards enemy fireball. you select that lock's preset, move your lock back fast and move on to other things fast. after about 2-3 additional moves you notice that your lock is still walking towards the fireball, GAH the lock wasnt selected. now you must try to do things even faster and try to select the lock again and press back back back and again nothing happens because this time you had to try to do it very fast. and now the game is over

you go to sleep weeping and cursing grim

does anyone have a solution to this big problem?

thanks in advance, your myth friend tirri

Just because you haven't been good since 2001 doesn't mean you can blame it on presets. We all get old Tirri, but some of us go senile before others. I'm sorry bro.

[cremisi]

Jun 20, 2012 9:38:45 GMT 2 tirri said:

Jun 20, 2012 8:56:35 GMT 2 cremisi said:

i do not believe this problem is a pre set problem , make sure you are using open GL for your graphics in preference and also explore windows mode vs full screen mode especially if you have multiple windows open in windows mode , also make sure you are using a standard mouse point and not some weird fancy mouse pointers and check your mouse properties from the control panel , if all fails you can run myth on different windows by right clicking on it and you can set it to run under win 98 .

i have tried all this. changing combatibility mode does nothing. neither does graphics settings. i think i have tried mouse settings too but i might as well give it another shot.

and like i said, i have had this problem for years, with several OS, computers, settings and myth patches.

do your presets work perfectly if you do what i said? press alt+number and then immediately afterwards click your mouse button, as fast as possible. does your preset select and then the selected unit moves where you clicked?

well , you would have to give it a sec , i usually wait until i get the message " preset created" to make sure its done , i am sure if you click somewhere in between it might interrupt it . that click mess happen to me before every once in a while but its rare . its weird , and its usually when you are controlling a unit of that pre set far away from it then you try to change formation , its annoying , i usually re do that preset .

[cruniac]

Jun 20, 2012 10:13:07 GMT 2 pogue said:

Jun 20, 2012 7:26:55 GMT 2 tirri said:

i think i have talked about this before and probably to project magma too but i have forgotten those discussions so ill post again.

since swithing from win98SE/Win ME to xp, presets in myth 2 dont work as well. i have had this problem ever since i abandoned sweet old Win ME and over several different operating systems, different computers/keyboards/mouses the problem still persists.

if you press alt+number and then immediately afterwards click your mouse button, nothing happens. you can easily test this in game. if my memory serves me correctly, this wasnt the case in win ME.

this makes myth half as enjoyable since most of the times i die, its because preset didnt select. you can work around this problem just by using presets and doing everything else a little slower but it's pretty hard to do since everything comes from lightning fast muscle memory.

what usually happens is something like this: your lock is moving towards enemy fireball. you select that lock's preset, move your lock back fast and move on to other things fast. after about 2-3 additional moves you notice that your lock is still walking towards the fireball, GAH the lock wasnt selected. now you must try to do things even faster and try to select the lock again and press back back back and again nothing happens because this time you had to try to do it very fast. and now the game is over

you go to sleep weeping and cursing grim

does anyone have a solution to this big problem?

thanks in advance, your myth friend tirri

Just because you haven't been good since 2001 doesn't mean you can blame it on presets. We all get old Tirri, but some of us go senile before others. I'm sorry bro.

bro is prexcusing up a storm

[drunken]

did u get my pm tirri?

[monty]

Jun 20, 2012 7:26:55 GMT 2 tirri said:

i abandoned sweet old Win ME

did win me run differently in other parts of the world? me was probably the only windows os that i would rate worse than vista on the usability scale

[ksiaze]

Totaly agree, Win Me was the worst windows ever, Vista is 2 nd worse.
Win7, Win Xp were ok.

[myrk]

I think I used to have this when I used Myth on a PC and never had it when I used a Mac. Maybe buy a cheap old Mac to do mything on.

[ghengis]

how about not using presets like a real pro.

[pyro]

If you had no units selected before recalling a preset, then it would work instantly. If you had something selected you need to release the alt-# keys before clicking on the ground and not a moment sooner. Myth does not know if you are going to create a new preset from your selection which is why it does not automatically recall your preset until you let go of the keys.

[vihaan]

Jun 21, 2012 5:19:26 GMT 2 pyro said:

If you had no units selected before recalling a preset, then it would work instantly. If you had something selected you need to release the alt-# keys before clicking on the ground and not a moment sooner. Myth does not know if you are going to create a new preset from your selection which is why it does not automatically recall your preset until you let go of the keys.

was wanting to say that while i was reading the thread and then i saw this post
+1

[marge]

WELL WELL WELL. IT LOOKS LIKE
"TOO GOOD TO SUBSTITUTE"
TIRRI IS ACTUALLY
TOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOW
TO PROPERLY USE PRESETS!
LAUGHING OUT LOUD!