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Post by scratch on Jul 22, 2012 17:58:26 GMT 2
third movie in a trilogy always sucks Return of the King was glorious. (Cue tolkien nerds saying LotR is not actually a trilogy.)  It wasn't MEANT to be a trilogy. The publisher forced the split.  |
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Post by ghengis on Jul 22, 2012 21:02:32 GMT 2
drunk, illiterate, and terrible at myth. What an awful combination I feel sorry for you.
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Post by drunken on Jul 23, 2012 3:39:45 GMT 2
ghengis ignorant and even more shitty at myth. I dont feel sorry for you.
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Post by homer on Jul 23, 2012 5:44:28 GMT 2
Yeah Drunken after carefully not reading any of your posts, I'm quite sure no one thinks "Batman Forever" is better than the newer films, no one said this directly, you've fabricated an opinion for someone that was never there in order to make a point in argument you created out of thin air. THIS IS HOW PEOPLE TROLL. But your not doing it on purpose.
But the point I'm trying to make is, Return of the King albeit a bit dragged out with overly dramatic Sam + Frodo love scenes was still awesome because of the battle for Gondor, how cool was it to see all those horses gallop in and then those Orcs are like "Oh shit, they ain't stoppin" Then WHAM. Of course legolas had to go and be gay and like slide down an Oliphants trunk or something I don't what that was all about. But I think we can all agree that the movie had a good message which was - NEVER under any circumstances leave your food unguarded on a camping trip with a fat person while you sleep. THEY WILL EAT IT, they can't comprehend rationing.
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Post by enculator on Jul 24, 2012 0:13:45 GMT 2
what about the new spiderman ? I think it was way better than the 3 others despite the fugly girl.
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Post by drunken on Jul 24, 2012 1:56:14 GMT 2
why do I bother reading these forums when its full of monkeys.
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Post by par73 on Jul 24, 2012 2:20:09 GMT 2
But I think we can all agree that the movie had a good message which was - NEVER under any circumstances leave your food unguarded on a camping trip with a fat person while you sleep. THEY WILL EAT IT, they can't comprehend rationing. very true, this is why i'll never invite grim on my camping trips to ohio |
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Post by myrk on Jul 24, 2012 6:30:43 GMT 2
Saw this movie tonight and it was pretty good.
You people love overanalyzing movies based on comic books.
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Post by pogue on Jul 24, 2012 6:42:56 GMT 2
The movie was pretty awesome, and so what if it has a couple cheesy lines like Batman repeating, "WHERE IS THE DETONATOR?" Remember The Dark Knight when's he's interrogating The Joker, "WHERE ARE THEY?" Same thing, and personally I don't give a shit if as soon as he escaped the pit he's suddenly back in gotham. The movie didn't need a 15 *cruisering* minute scene of him traveling across the globe. Use your brains or do you need a 5 page essay to explain it like you probably did for Inception Ghengis? It's a comic book movie....
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Post by ghengis on Jul 24, 2012 6:58:00 GMT 2
*cruiser* youboth. pogue the movie couldve easily been explicable if the pit were just in a different place. as for the dark knight, yeah he was in love with that ugly 2nd version of rachel dawe of course he was just going to ask where she was. This time he had about 5 months to think of a plan which amounted to "ok well im going to beat the shit out of bane then ask him where the detonator is". Use your brain instead of accepting the movie for special effects and good action scenes which it was obviously going to have because it had a big enough budget to cure world hunger.
seriously give me one good reason why the movie was so good. Beyond "great cast" and "dynamic visuals" no one has given me one good *cruisering* reason the movie was so great.
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Post by captain on Jul 24, 2012 15:12:47 GMT 2
Let me start by saying I do NOT see movies in theaters. The last movie I saw in theaters was the Dark Knight and I watched that 3 times because it *cruisering* ruled. That being said Dark Knight Rises was a steaming pile of shit. With great actors, a huge budget, and Christopher Nolan directing this movie is a shoe in for best picture. The last time I was this disappointed spending ten bucks was on a burrito that I threw up 20 minutes later. Lots of good stuff in this movie, seems you are focusing on the bad, and some of the stuff you are saying isn't true:/ *Cue Spoilers 1. Bullshit rescue scenarios. Okay, every superhero movie has the part where at the last possible moment the hero comes in and saves everyone. This happened about 15 times in this movie. Batman would magically appear and stop someone from being murdered, then 2 seconds later he would do the same thing about 20 miles away. Give me a break. Don't have 15 bullshit scenarios and ESPECIALLY don't do them one after another. I mean he actually saves that faggot commissioner gordon and about 2 seconds later saves joseph gordon. IMPOSSIBLE AND DUMB. I went to the bathroom at this part, but to time reference in a movie is completely dumb, because we have zero idea of how much time is actually going by. 2. Retarded Cops. Remember Batman Begins where EVERY cop in the city goes over the bridge to stop the prison riot even though its an obvious trap? They all get gassed by the scare crow and every cop is rendered insane and useless. Same exact thing happens in this one. 3000 cops go down into the sewers to get Bane. Guess what Bane sets a trap in the sewers and closes all the exits. 3 cops do not go underground. Is this real writing? So you're telling me thousands of cops went into the sewers and you only left THREE above ground? Even my retarded friend raised his eyebrows at this. Since when are other good guys in hero movies smart? This is nothing new, and happens in every movie pretty much, so you must hate all super hero movies. Don't watch them then? 3. Batman's trust. Bruce Wayne has some energy reactor that can also be used as an atom bomb. He decides to tell a bunch of people including this bitch he just fucked. Seriously? God forbid you trust honest Morgan Freeman or your ass kissing acolyte butler, no trust the girl you met 2 seconds ago with the god damn atom bomb. COOL. Hard to say on this one, Scientist says the machine can be used as an Atom bomb, so technically Bruce Wayne didn't tell her that. As to if he told he still has it is hard to say, because they were already planning on breaking in so it seems they already knew that? And also in the end Batmans trust is what makes him Batman and ultimately saves his life... 4. The Pit. Bane beats the shit out of Batman and puts him in a prison/pit somewhere in South Africa or some shit. Mind you, an 8 year old girl escaped from this pit. Bane is surprised to see that Batman escapes. Really? An 8 year old climbed out and you're surprised that *cruisering* Batman escaped. *cruiser* you Christoper Nolan. Not to mention, shortly after Batman escapes from the pit he is somehow back in Gotham. Never-mind the fact that he was in South Africa with no passport, transportation, or money. He is just walking around Gotham the next day talking to Cat woman like "no big deal". Very dumb indeed, this is the whole Austin Powers thing, No, I am not going to kill you, I am going to place you in a reasonably easy place to escape and just assumes everything goes according to plan? 5. The Line. This is possibly the worst line of any movie ever. Shortly after swimming from Africa back to Gotham, Batman rescues the dumbass cops and there is a huge brawl between Bane and his goons vs Batman and cops. Bane and Batman square off and Bane says something like "did you come here to get your ass kicked again?". Then Batman drops this gem of a line, "No I came here to stop you". No shit Batman. You had like 2 months of prison time to think of something to say and that's what you came up with? The writers worked on this script for countless hours and this is the trash they throw out? Don't worry though, the worst is yet to come. It is a batman movie? Why are you mad at the way he says a dumb line, you must hate every batman movie then? 6. WHERE IS IT? Batman proceeds to kick the *cruiser* out of Bane who knows where the detonator for this A bomb is. His interrogation techniques are limited to screaming WHERE IS IT? 6-7 times in Bane's face. Why would this psychopath on a suicide mission tell you where the god damn detonator is just because you are asking him? Again, I can't believe people actually worked on this script. It seems like they just copy and pasted a bunch of lines from the first two movies without a *cruisering* thought. What else was he supposed to do? Should he have just killed him and tried to "guess" where the detonator was, granted it was terribly cheesy line, again it is a batman movie and is expected, they had very other little options at this point. 7. Motive? The villains have zero motive. I would say there's about 30-40 goons working for Bane and whatever that cunt's name is. They decide to get an Atom bomb and blow themselves up so they can destroy Gotham. What a stupid *cruisering* idea. Seriously was Bane just like, hey guys want to kamikaze this city with me? Yeah sure Bane, I wasn't doing anything else today why not. The female villain gives the explanation that she is "finishing what her father started". Ok, well frankly that's a bullshit reason I don't care if you're in the League of Poor Terrorist Plots, come up with something better you god damn hacks. Are you seriously questioning motive in a damn film where a guy went in and shot up the entire showing of batman? ummm, okay? They were *cruisering* crazy dude. 8. The ending. So Batman flies the bomb out to sea in his aircraft to save the city. You see a countdown go :02 :01 and a mushroom cloud explosion. Guess what? Batman is alive and fine he is just *cruisering* cat woman in Florence. Of all the horrible inconsistencies and just AWFUL parts of this movie, this really takes the cake. I mean Batman explodes, then he is alive. *cruiser* Hollywood and stupid crowd pleaser endings like this. I could have given this movie an "ok" if Batman had at least died, but no. It was just all bullshit and I hated every second of it. I am quite sure you didn't notice that batman was never once shown in the plane after he made it to the water, and again we have no idea how much time was actually passing, for all we know Batman jumped out in a damn hang glider and flew back into the city. If you didn't see that coming you seriously suck at watching movies. Were you also surprised in Star Wars revenge of the Sith when Anakin turns bad and tries to kill every Jedi, and then Obi Wan beats him? I mean come on man... |
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Post by captain on Jul 24, 2012 15:24:19 GMT 2
1. How did Batman get back to Gotham? He's in some Sarlac-like desert pit, presumably in the middle of nowhere (though I guess one could argue that it was somewhere in Gotham itself, which doesn't make too much sense as everyone there speaks some strange dialect that I did not recognize), climbs out, and within a day he's somehow back in Gotham without his money, his I.D., or any Batman technology at all. Weird. I figure the story of his epic journey back to Gotham is probably worth its own movie. Deus ex machina. Who knows, but ultimately who cares, he *cruisering* flew. It is a movie, there is absolutely no point in dissecting it that much? We are talking about a fantasy place where we have no idea how far it is, how much pull Bruce Wayne has, and maybe Kane just left Batman all his clothes and money outside the pit. 2. Not to mention when Bane beats him senseless he's in his Batsuit, and when he comes to in the prison he's in plainclothes. Did Bane undress him on the journey? Who knows what kind of kinky stuff transpired while he was out. No wonder he couldn't walk. The fact that he had another "backup" Batsuit waiting for him upon his return is also not explained. Cue fanboy apologetics. My only guess is that Batman wears clothes under his suit..but who cares? 3. I kept wondering to myself several times throughout the movie at how snappy a dresser Bane was. That guy had some cool duds. He doesn't particularly strike me as the type that enjoys shopping, so can anyone tell me where he gets his clothes? Not to mention where he gets fitted for them? No comment. 4. The "boy" that escaped was actually a girl. What? How come the doctor-elder in the prison lied to Batman??? He didn't, he just kept saying child this, child that, etc. He never lied. 5. 3000 police trapped underground for 3 months. And they're "fine". You'd think they'd be catching gangrene and stuff from wallowing in their own fecal matter. 3 months, as that how long they said it was, I don't quite remember...If so you might have a point there. 6. Automatic machine guns and Batmobile-mounted cannons are seemingly ineffective against a bottlenecked crowd of charging police brandishing nothing but their fists. Another good point, When watching this I was like, sweet 3000 police walking down a super narrow way. Time to get the cannon out and 2 shot all of them, low and behold they still somehow lose? 7. The nuclear blast. Wow. All the people watching it would have probably gone blind. No shockwave. Nobody's worried about fallout. Everything's normal even though it went off just a couple miles away. Also, I understand Batman escaped by having fixed the autopilot, but it appeared that he was still in the cockpit with a mere five seconds left. Even if he had ejected at that time he would have been instantly vaporized. And don't even say he could have "hid" underwater because there would have been stewed Batman in that case. We have no idea how far it was, but yes I would imagine that the people got some form of poison from the bomb, but then again it is a movie... 8. Is it just me or is Catwoman an implied lesbian? Her friend was hanging all over her in that scene. This is not a plot hole so much as something that should have been further explored. This should definitely be explored more, Cat woman spin off perhaps, I would watch it. 9. How did Bruce's leg get fixed permanently? I don't understand how he strapped on a hydraulic rubber band and suddenly he can walk without a cane the rest of the movie. Yes, that is how he fixed it permanently...He is crazy smart. 10. Why does Batman insist on talking in his hoarse, husky voice with Catwoman even after she knows his identity (and he talked to her just fine in the previous scene as just Bruce)? Also, does anyone else notice that Batman always has his mouth open and Bruce always has it closed? I wonder what that is supposed to represent. Who knows, his voice is seriously dumb though, the only thing you can say about the voice is it doesn't sound like Bruce Wayne, in other super hero movies they have a mask on but don't change their voice, like Mary Jane isn't going to recognize Peter Parkers voice? |
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Post by homer on Jul 24, 2012 18:44:38 GMT 2
You guys have given me much to think on while I am in the theater this week.
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Post by amino1 on Jul 24, 2012 20:47:10 GMT 2
Regarding the bomb--the concussion from "Fat Man", which was the prototype device dropped on Nagasaki, was felt by persons up to 40 miles away. Everything within a 3 mile blast radius was vaporized. This was an atomic bomb and qualitatively different than a modern day nuclear device which would, I imagine, have a destructive potential several magnitudes greater. The blast would appear brighter than the sun from whatever distance the people were; their vision would all have permanent blind spots at the very least. And even at 6 miles away, there would be a sound some 30 seconds after the initial blast, and it would be, at the least, something like this:
Also, there was no "black rain" or comparable phenomenon. Basically, I would feel a bit more at ease if they hadn't detonated a nuclear device, because of all the attendant complications that were left unaddressed, but rather explained it as just a really huge explosion. Then I wouldn't have to break my suspended disbelief and could focus instead on simply enjoying the movie.
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Post by honkey on Jul 24, 2012 22:53:33 GMT 2
Gk....
You forgot to mention the part where the police decide to charge down a narrow road brave heart style against 2 mini guns and all the bullets hit the ground.
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